tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2456802468539868519.post3461703220223833610..comments2023-10-12T02:21:40.102-07:00Comments on English Historical Fiction Authors: The Fate of a Grand House in the English Civil WarDebra Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03256313302199653185noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2456802468539868519.post-87362893601266267472015-10-07T17:26:52.512-07:002015-10-07T17:26:52.512-07:00A pox on Oliver Cromwell. A pox on Oliver Cromwell. Lolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01263352882360078134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2456802468539868519.post-54330647557274543842015-10-07T12:52:58.552-07:002015-10-07T12:52:58.552-07:00Is Annie Whitehead correct in saying this is the o...Is Annie Whitehead correct in saying this is the only time in English history that this happened ... seems to me the Wars of the Roses were divisive also. Not my period, so I'd appreciate your more informed thoughts on this point.Sally Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11287628255330281037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2456802468539868519.post-15765395781736146132015-10-07T08:56:50.694-07:002015-10-07T08:56:50.694-07:00I realize it was war and all that baloney, but I s...I realize it was war and all that baloney, but I still think it is disgusting how people can justify burning and looting and causing such pain and heartache. very sad.Donna Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11491130884085643521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2456802468539868519.post-36608804104418168382015-10-07T08:44:10.324-07:002015-10-07T08:44:10.324-07:00Yes, I hope I didn't give the appearance of be...Yes, I hope I didn't give the appearance of being partisan! See my comment above to Annie. The Basing House example is quite a lot more complex than I had space for in this post. People have written whole books on it! But the looting was motivated by extreme anger about the state of the nation, not just by greed. <br /><br />However it serves as a good example of what was lost to all of us on these British islands through the 'great shaking' of the English Civil Wars. (Actually, the correct term these days is the British Civil Wars as there was also fighting in Scotland, Ireland and Wales.<br /><br />Thank you everyone for commenting and this interesting discussion.Deborah Swifthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17006077873037462291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2456802468539868519.post-45387706130947523922015-10-07T08:37:28.824-07:002015-10-07T08:37:28.824-07:00You're right, and as Shawn points out in the c...You're right, and as Shawn points out in the comment below, it was not all one-sided. At times homes were destroyed simply because they blocked the line of fire to a bigger target. As in all Civil Wars there can be no clear conquest. But what it did do was make Britain totally rethink the constitution, the Divine Right of Kings - what Royalty was really about, how the common man might control his own destiny - what Parliament was for, and how to integrate the dissenting groups of reformers such as the Levellers. Such a fascinating period!Deborah Swifthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17006077873037462291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2456802468539868519.post-29788442382089435732015-10-07T08:31:04.712-07:002015-10-07T08:31:04.712-07:00The reasons for taking sides were so complex, and ...The reasons for taking sides were so complex, and it went on for so long, that I think sometimes even those who were involved forgot exactly why they were fighting, but it just became like gang warfare.Deborah Swifthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17006077873037462291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2456802468539868519.post-51341397783083309592015-10-07T08:28:45.915-07:002015-10-07T08:28:45.915-07:00You're right, they did. The actual site goes b...You're right, they did. The actual site goes back earlier to Norman times.Deborah Swifthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17006077873037462291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2456802468539868519.post-32751640873408107772015-10-07T08:28:44.753-07:002015-10-07T08:28:44.753-07:00Indeed ... how could it be one sided? We are talki...Indeed ... how could it be one sided? We are talking about humans beings and loot . As for this being only time neighbor vs neighbor in English history...yes I suppose formally and on this scale....but once was enough it seems and perhaps the memory of those times kept England from revolution later . Before the reforms, it's hard to see how it avoided it otherwise...yet it did Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05033117202223821117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2456802468539868519.post-82294378671159955212015-10-07T08:28:06.835-07:002015-10-07T08:28:06.835-07:00Yes, it is so sad. The repercussions within famili...Yes, it is so sad. The repercussions within families went on for years.Deborah Swifthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17006077873037462291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2456802468539868519.post-37730375476562316922015-10-07T06:04:25.905-07:002015-10-07T06:04:25.905-07:00The Royalists did the same to Parliamentarian home...The Royalists did the same to Parliamentarian homes and lands, as told by the sack of Leicester and other episodes. It was not one-sided.Shawn Lambhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08053842855118457085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2456802468539868519.post-77107650501047775002015-10-07T05:55:17.562-07:002015-10-07T05:55:17.562-07:00It's often hard to remember that this was real...It's often hard to remember that this was really the only time this happened in English history, when neighbour fought against neighbour. Awful and sad times. When I was studying this period for 'A' level, my teacher told me of two villages near where we lived, in Norfolk, whose inhabitants still didn't 'get on' because the villages declared for different sides in the war.Annie Whiteheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11028691371545306450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2456802468539868519.post-6021814831000467092015-10-07T04:36:32.129-07:002015-10-07T04:36:32.129-07:00Excellent post. To dress up such slaughter and the...Excellent post. To dress up such slaughter and theft in moral, religious terms is beyond contempt. And speaking of civil war, indeed there is no protection when a fellow countryman throat is in the way of loot . That throat will be cut without hesitation.Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05033117202223821117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2456802468539868519.post-44602779248449964752015-10-07T01:13:42.178-07:002015-10-07T01:13:42.178-07:00A sad affair! I seem to recall Time Team partially...A sad affair! I seem to recall Time Team partially excavating the site to determine its layout. It would have been a magnificent estate. Cryssa Bazoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03339300665743449764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2456802468539868519.post-80344571028367565052015-10-06T22:44:38.370-07:002015-10-06T22:44:38.370-07:00It is important to remember this was a civil war, ...It is important to remember this was a civil war, not an invasion by a foreign army. These stories bring a high degree of pathos because this was neighbor against neighbor, with religion as an excuse to murder, bully and plunder. An important post! Linda Fetterly Roothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05679025414115279660noreply@blogger.com